R to @ejames_c: 20/ It's likely they haven't actually tried using it. If they did, they would know how difficult it is to do. And they would have come to grips with the core limitations of the theory itself. The end.
20/ It's likely they haven't actually tried using it. If they did, they would know how difficult it is to do. And they would have come to grips with the core limitations of the theory itself. The end.
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R to @ejames_c: 19/ None of this is new, and anyone who's followed my writing/experimentations with DP would be familiar with the arguments here. The next time you find someone recommending Deliberate Practice, ask them what domain they're speaking of, a
19/ None of this is new, and anyone who's followed my writing/experimentations with DP would be familiar with the arguments here. The next time you find someone recommending Deliberate Practice, ask them what domain they're speaking of, and what they know of the practice.
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R to @ejames_c: 18/ Or a body of work that allows you to extract tacit mental models of expertise from the heads of experts around you: https://commoncog.com/blog/how-to-learn-tacit-knowledge/
18/ Or a body of work that allows you to extract tacit mental models of expertise from the heads of experts around you: commoncog.com/blog/how-to-le…
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R to @ejames_c: 17/ So what do you do? Well, you look for alternative training methods. Like a learning theory that teaches you how to learn better from your experiences:
17/ So what do you do? Well, you look for alternative training methods. Like a learning theory that teaches you how to learn better from your experiences:
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R to @ejames_c: 16/ But this is really hard. And the skills required for pedagogical development are different from the skills required to get good at the domain. It's likely you don't have time for that, especially if you just want to get good at your c
16/ But this is really hard. And the skills required for pedagogical development are different from the skills required to get good at the domain. It's likely you don't have time for that, especially if you just want to get good at your career.
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R to @ejames_c: 15/ Now, there is an interesting catch. It's totally possible for a skill domain to experience pedagogical development — that is, for coaches and practitioners to discover, establish and share a body of tested training methods. Suddenly
15/ Now, there is an interesting catch. It's totally possible for a skill domain to experience pedagogical development — that is, for coaches and practitioners to discover, establish and share a body of tested training methods. Suddenly DP becomes possible for that domain.
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R to @ejames_c: 14/ Implication: if you are in a messy skill domain with no well-established training methods — like MOST OF THE SKILL DOMAINS IN YOUR CAREER — you can't do DP.
14/ Implication: if you are in a messy skill domain with no well-established training methods — like MOST OF THE SKILL DOMAINS IN YOUR CAREER — you can't do DP.
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R to @ejames_c: 13/ And so this is the dirty little secret of the deliberate practice literature. It was built on top of bounded skill domains with already well-established training methods. Things like chess, and music, and tennis and math!
13/ And so this is the dirty little secret of the deliberate practice literature. It was built on top of bounded skill domains with already well-established training methods. Things like chess, and music, and tennis and math!
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R to @ejames_c: 12/ In Peak, Ericsson sort of does a cop-out and says "ok, so maybe you can't do DP in your domain, but you can use the PRINCIPLES of DP!" Sure. But DP assumes good, clean feedback, and many real world skills don't have that. Leadership,
12/ In Peak, Ericsson sort of does a cop-out and says "ok, so maybe you can't do DP in your domain, but you can use the PRINCIPLES of DP!" Sure. But DP assumes good, clean feedback, and many real world skills don't have that. Leadership, say. Or portfolio construction.
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R to @ejames_c: 11/ How do you get good at all of these things? Not by DP, for sure. In fact, even WITHIN the domain of music, researchers admit that good pop musicians and jazz folk do not do DP to get good! Only classical musicians do so.
11/ How do you get good at all of these things? Not by DP, for sure. In fact, even WITHIN the domain of music, researchers admit that good pop musicians and jazz folk do not do DP to get good! Only classical musicians do so.
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R to @ejames_c: 10/ Try asking these questions for many of the skills you might want to get good at in your career: - Getting good at organisational politics. - Negotiating deals for your company. - Developing code 'taste' when building large software sy
10/ Try asking these questions for many of the skills you might want to get good at in your career: - Getting good at organisational politics. - Negotiating deals for your company. - Developing code 'taste' when building large software systems. - Inventing new marketing methods.
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R to @ejames_c: 9/ You want to get good at investing. Where are the well-established investment training techniques? Who has done pedagogical development? Coaches? How do you get good feedback? What are your well-defined, specific goals? You don't have
9/ You want to get good at investing. Where are the well-established investment training techniques? Who has done pedagogical development? Coaches? How do you get good feedback? What are your well-defined, specific goals? You don't have good answers? No DP for you.
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R to @ejames_c: 8/ My question to you: Where are the widely-established management training techniques? What is the pedagogy? Who are your coaches? How do you get good timely feedback? How do you focus? Oh, you can't answer these questions? Then you ca
8/ My question to you: Where are the widely-established management training techniques? What is the pedagogy? Who are your coaches? How do you get good timely feedback? How do you focus? Oh, you can't answer these questions? Then you can't do DP. Let's try another one.
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R to @ejames_c: 7/ So, ok. DP is the best form of practice possible, and it requires all those things. So what? Well, let's say you become a manager. Management is a skill. There are good managers and bad managers. Let's say that you want to do delibera
7/ So, ok. DP is the best form of practice possible, and it requires all those things. So what? Well, let's say you become a manager. Management is a skill. There are good managers and bad managers. Let's say that you want to do deliberate practice for management.
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R to @ejames_c: 6/ Note that again, deliberate practice is a SUPERSET of purposeful practice. DP is everything in purposeful practice and then some. Ericsson is careful to say that purposeful practice ALONE is not as good. See illustration:
6/ Note that again, deliberate practice is a SUPERSET of purposeful practice. DP is everything in purposeful practice and then some. Ericsson is careful to say that purposeful practice ALONE is not as good. See illustration:
R to @ejames_c: 5/ On top of that, DP also contains the following properties, which Ericsson describes as 'purposeful practice': - is focused - takes you out of your comfort zone - requires feedback as part of practice - has well-defined, specific goals.
5/ On top of that, DP also contains the following properties, which Ericsson describes as 'purposeful practice': - is focused - takes you out of your comfort zone - requires feedback as part of practice - has well-defined, specific goals.
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R to @ejames_c: 4/ I'm going to use the definition Ericsson set out in Peak. In Peak, DP is: - Done in a field with well-established training techniques. - Guided in initial stages by a coach. - Depends on refining mental representations. - Involved buil
4/ I'm going to use the definition Ericsson set out in Peak. In Peak, DP is: - Done in a field with well-established training techniques. - Guided in initial stages by a coach. - Depends on refining mental representations. - Involved building/modifying previously learnt skills.
R to @ejames_c: 3/ Ok, let's define DP. To make things a little complicated, DP is tricky to define because K Anders Ericsson has been inconsistent with definitions throughout his career (see pic, from The Science of Expertise, Hambrick et al).
3/ Ok, let's define DP. To make things a little complicated, DP is tricky to define because K Anders Ericsson has been inconsistent with definitions throughout his career (see pic, from The Science of Expertise, Hambrick et al).
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